Greetings Carl and Loretta, a couple of pictures of the my Luddite-Special out on the gravel roads of rural Kansas on a very blustery day. I’m really enjoying it!! I was worried about how the gravel-geometry was going to handle relative to my road bike. Well, it handles great, very responsive. And the fit is fantastic. At the end, I’m in it for about $4400, and its is exactly what I wanted. – cheers. I hope Spring is just around the corner for you guys. – Adam G